Minecraft Name: Original_Jackson Suggestion: We add a Welcome and Goodbye thread for new players to say hello and meet people or players leaving to say goodbye to people. Reason: I see a lot of people posting their goodbyes in the general section and then the post getting deleted, so I think either having a whole subcategory dedicated to it, of not a sub subcategory (like the goals in economy section). Any Other Information: This was used in an old forum for an old game I was on, it really helps new players like builders meet people and get started, but also let older players say their farewells as they left. Link To This Plugin: N/A
The welcome, of course! But quitting... let's face it. More often than not users don't actually stick to quitting.
I agree with Agent Hare, we should allow the welcome threads, which we do allow. There is no need for a good bye thread though.
I want to bump this thread. I think we do need a subsection like this in the General section. But I have yet to understand why the staff don't allow good bye threads.
Goodbye threads can get... messy. People asking for money, people demanding xyz. Some flaming depending on the player. It's against the rules because they aren't needed, aren't helpful, and generally cause problems. The fact of the matter is if you want to leave just tell your friends directly.
It could easily be monitored, if every category that could cause flaming was deleted we would have nine left!
Yes but the other threads are crucial to ECC running. A goodbye thread is pointless. If you really want to say good bye do it privately with your friends.
would there be a possibility of perhaps having an "autolock" system, where threads are locked as there posted, preventing flaming while allowing that user to state why there leaving, who's affected, and the way forward?
That is an interesting question, however, that would be something only Andrew could probably answer, sorry.
I'm automatic no to a goodbye section. That is just messy on all fronts, which is why we lock goodbye threads already. However, an Introductions section (at top of the forum) would be alright. Most forums I have been on have them. It creates a friendlier vibe/environmental feel for new users who are looking for simple help - that doesn't really fit in help - and friends (not necessarily easy in-game when most people tend to hate on newbies). Forums are linear and not instant-messaging, so it is easier for people to ease into a community.
well duh, but i'm saying, if they're just locked straight away, and there's no confusion/flaming, then what's wrong with a goodbye section?
If I am to be honest, I just feel like that is the type of thing that should be handled in private not announced to the whole world.
As we can tell from the server rules, I'm not the only one that thinks it should stay off the forums.
Trust me...there is good reason for them to be disallowed. Honestly, even leaving the threads visible after a lock is stretching it a bit in some cases. These days, people occasionally make them with the knowledge that they'll be locked instantly, because they still get the same attention in game with the thread left visible. I've been to places that allow goodbye threads, and some of these places almost even encourage them...and that's a problem in itself, even if there isn't flaming that takes place in them. To encourage the making of goodbye threads is to encourage a user to make one before they should. If someone is even in the slightest bit "fed up" with something and thinking they are "going to leave", then before they have even cooled down, there's a thread saying they're leaving. Now a bunch of people are upset...then two days later, he changes he mind entirely and says he's back, and now the same people, who may have taken various actions because he said he'd leave, will be quite frustrated with him. From ownership of a town being transferred and demanded back, to people tearing his plots down in towns, and to money issues from one user to another, etc...there should never, ever be something that encourages a user to act like or think he was leaving. None of this is even considering the flaming and arguing I've seen in places that encourage these threads. Put simply: The more tempting it is for someone to say and act like they are leaving, the more likely and quickly they will do it when they are upset for whatever the reason may be. The more the staff discourages users from making such decisions rashly, the less likely that issues relating to it come up: Unnecessary drama, (Upset users because the user is "leaving," Angry/frustrated users because he came back instantly, possibly costing them money/etc.) money/ownership issues, (granting co-mayors ownership/ecodollars that the "leaving" user wouldn't need if he was gone, but he comes back shortly after the payment/ownership trade.) and even the possibility of the user actually leaving...and this is just a few things of many I can imagine happening. To make a section encouraging goodbye threads (or even remove the current rule against it.) is to encourage people to think they should leave, and that's no good for anyone.
