[Suggestion] Server Staff Minimum Age Requirement

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by silencedterror, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. silencedterror

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    When I looked trough the staff standarts I never saw a minimum age to apply. I was really surprised that anyone can become staff. I know that the app itself isn't a very easy thing to do but anyone with a bigger brother/sister/friend can ask them to fill it out. To be honest I don't really want to answer to some 13-14 year old kid on the forums or in game because I don't think that children at that age are mature enough to deal with certain situations. Even if they are mature enough I don't know that for sure so don't get offendet if I ask for your age before letting you know what my problem is in game. In my opionion 17-18+ is a good age for a mod.
    Its nothing personal, if there are currently any staff members below 17 I don't mean to offend you, I just don't know if I can trust your judgement.
     
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    Some of the players who have been the best staff members have been below your age suggestion. If you are mature enough to handle the requirements then you are old enough in my opinion. In the same way that being older doesn't mean you will be a good mod, being younger doesn't prevent you from being a good mod either.

    If an applicant has proved to be mature enough in game, then their age really isn't that significant.
     
  3. silencedterror

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    Yes ofcourse I agree that some people even if they are 60 years old are not to be trusted with a spoon but in my experience age is a plus when we talk about server staff members and I am not talking just about ECC or other Minecraft servers. A lot of other games have this minimal age reguirement and it works better when you have it because there are a lot of different situations that require more patience and experieance that younger members just don't have even if they are mature for their age.
     
  4. Intellectualist

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    This issue touches very near and dear to my heart, as I've had some grief over this in other multiplayer games.

    What dewsy said is correct. The simple answer is that if the 10 year old is capable and able and mature enough to be a staff member, he should be allowed to be a staff member. There's simply no reason someone who's able to be staff shouldn't be staff, regardless of age.

    If the person's experience and patience aren't good enough for the job of being staff, they won't be and shouldn't be staff. But if your 12 year old staff member has the patience and experience to be a staff member, there's no reason they shouldn't be staff.
     
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    I am 13 years old and I think I'm plenty mature. There was once a staff member at the age of 10. (I can't say who) And they were one of the best staff members on the server. Most users on staff are below 17 but are fantastic. 15 year olds make perfect staff members and majority of staff members are that age or around that age by a year or two. Just my two cents :)

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  6. silencedterror

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    My main concern is that this server has real money envolved in the form of features and donations. The main reason I don't spend real life money here is that I don't trust children with it as any other normal thinking human being. I know that they can't steal my money but what if I get banned for a wrong reason, what if they misunderstood me or didn't get a rule right? Than I lose an investment. No one can guarantee me that this can't happen. This also goes for people 18+ but the chances are smaller. The thing is no matter how mature and smart a child is in the end a child is a child. I don't mean that as a offence but I think you can see my concern and you can't really deny it. When you really think about it all those laws for child labor are not only to protect the children but to put grown responsible people in the positions they need to be and thats what I am trying to say here.
     
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    The staff doesn't handle your money. Strictly the owner handles your money. If they ban you for no reason appeal and if it was truly for no reason you will be unbanned immediately.
    I've known 13+ year olds (not including myself) that have been much more mature than many 17+ year olds.

    I've also been on this server for three years. In that time, nothing you have said could happen has happened except some unjust bans (all of which that have ever happened got unbanned immediately).

    No mods have control over your money or your donation features (except for feature rules of course, like nickname can only be 16 characters long, etc etc)

    This server is perfectly fine as it is. Also, the funny thing is that all the rogue moderators (not many) have been older than 13-14.
    Age also doesn't matter. If the staff deems that person worthy, that person becomes moderator. If the staff deems that person immature and unworthy, that person doesn't become moderator. There doesn't need to be an age limit, because if there was than many of the greatest staff members ECC has ever had would have never been.
     
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    Woah, didn't realize you were 13, I'm 13 as well, awesome. You definitely seem plenty mature in-game for being 13.

    Now, in reply to silencedterror:


     
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    As Dewsy stated, age isn't that relevant to whether someone would be a good staff member.

    We've had excellent staff members below the age you've stated, and even I was below that age until august. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't allow people are perfectly capable to become a staff member because of their age. Maturity is far more important, and far more likely to stick in somebody's mind.

    As for the concerns regarding wrongful bans, if you are banned wrongly for some reason, you will be unbanned very quickly. You won't simply be banished permanently based on a misunderstanding.
     
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    Staff are not picked for age, but maturity and if they can handle the job of a staff member. Most of the time when a person is on staff its means that they most likely know what there doing. They also make sure that when someone gets banned its for the right reasons and that they have proof. If you do get banned fairly than appeal and they should unban you since you did nothing wrong, but the point is just because someones youngs doesnt mean they dont know what their doing.
     
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    Age has very little to do with maturity level. And generally younger people have more time to spend on the server. I personally have college & a job to deal with on top of moderating. I think that it is good to have a range of ages across staff because we work as a team. Individuals don't just ban people without consulting other mods. If a young mod were to go rogue it would be quickly fixed, the same with an older mod going rogue. So personally I say let young people moderate. Sometimes young people are very mature! No reason to group them and create a bias saying they are all immature.

    Just my thoughts btw. Complete opinion.
     
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    I think that the whole "age doesn't matter" excuse is dumb. If staff has to choose between two people that have equal applications and an equal level of professionalism, yet one is 12 and the other is 21, which one would be expected to be chosen? I personally don't have any trust or faith in children, so I'm always very hesitant to see someone young be considered for staff. Let's leave this to the professionals, k?
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    I believe that if they have equal applications, yes choose the older one, but I feel like putting a restriction on age would be unfair, because what about all the mature people that are in that age group that would be good staff. Staff is determined by maturity, not age. Like you said, if they have equally good applications, yes choose the older applicant, but don't just stop all the younger players from applying.
     
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    I believe maturity and age go hand in hand soooo
     
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    I personally do not want to see 11,12,13 year olds on our staff. I believe an age limit would be 14+.
     
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    Can you explain why if someone can handle staff and is mature enough why they shouldn't be on staff, because their "too young". As long as they carry out staff responsibilities with a certain level of maturity, why does age matter that much.
     
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    Yeah I'd like to hear @AgentHare and @steveshizzle reply to this...
     
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    In some cases, I agree with you completely. However, age does not guarantee maturity, as well as the fact that maturity does does not require age.
     
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    I like to think maturity goes hand to hand with knowledge, and knowledge with age. There are things in which younger staff members will have to deal with that may be so inappropriate they don't even know what it is- may not know the meaning, or may not know in depth about it to make a correct choice. That's why I suggested 11,12,13 year olds not be allowed to apply for staff.