I see quite a few people requesting, yes requesting to be banned. What is the point? You just don't click on the Join Server button when in minecraft, or you just don't play minecraft. They are really quite pointless, people should be able to control themselves and not request to be banned to stop them from playing ECC. What baffles me even more is people asking to be banned time after time. Why? My suggestion is basically to remove this feature as it really serves no purpose. If you really need to be banned from a game to stop you playing... well lets not go down that path.
I honestly have to agree. If people can't control their ability to play games, they need a serious reality check. I don't mean to sound rude, but if you are not wanting to access the server for a time period, then just.. don't log in. **Sorry if I have came across as rude, but I am only giving my honest opinion.**
Hi vintage, thanks for your reply. Honestly, I do agree, I didn't want to write that but you have sort of taken the words out of my mouth!
I understand that certain activities can become "addictive" and you enjoy that activity dearly, but if you cannot control your game-play, then that is most likely an issue. I'd also like to mention this. Even although I am a staff member on ECC, my School work, family and friends, always come before computer games. Please please PLEASE always remember that. I am not encouraging you not to play our awesome server, but the server/ games are not your number 1 priority. Again, I would like to apologise if I have came across as rude. If you have any questions as to what I have just said, please feel free to forum message me.
What? And take away the newest way to troll the ban/complaints section? Actually, I wish to recommend to all players that have no self control and always wish to have more time off to take full advantage of the new "name change" feature which will give a full 30 days of not having the constant desire to return. Enjoy your time off - I know we will.
When a player changes their name, even though they are banned and they have a different username, they wont be able to join the server as it is their accounts UUID that will be banned.
That is my point - it is the perfect way for these users (and us) to get a 30 day break - unless I misunderstand how it works which is entirely possible
Removing ban requests would be a horrid idea that will cause more problems than it solves. If a user is going to go out of their way to say they want to be banned, the solution is to have a way of honoring their request, not to tell them "Sorry, go find a way to get yourself banned if you want to be" which is what removing them would do. As such, let's take an example of someone that wants to get themselves banned. If there is no legimate way of requesting it, they may fall back into the only other option, breaking rules until it is done. Now, why should we encourage an option that is disruptive to many players on the server? Is the simple app so annoying and "useless" that the userbase would prefer someone go off in global before they cause enough damage to get themselves banned? I sure hope not, as the damage caused by in-game issues are much more disruptive to other users than their account being banned is going to be for them. In addition, what if they think/know their account is compromised, and wants to have it locked out to prevent damage until they can recover the account. Removing ban requests would give them no method of doing so, and would have to hope no damages comes from that instance.
I think you do xD Let me explain. So lets take me as an example. My display name is "Vintage_Gamer", but on Mojangs systems I will have a code/ string of numbers that correspond to my account. Lets say its 12345 for now. If someone banned me, the game would say "Ok whats Vintage's ID" "ban the id 12345 from joining the server" I then change my name to.. lets say "physicistsbrother", and I try joining. The server would realise that the id 12345 is not allowed to join. Do you understand now?
Hi general. Thanks for your reply. In this instance I do not agree with you as the people who file these requrst do not, generally seem to be the type who would go out of their way to get banned, and thus this problem would not arise. A small amout may, but the mods could deal with it efficiently and professionally
You bring up an interesting point. But why would a player need to be banned? Thats the part I don't understand. Also, why 3 days? If they dont want to be apart of ECC, they should just not join the server or be banned permanently till they appeal. Thats my honest opinion.
Of course, leave it the General to be a voice of reason And now I remember that was exactly why this was allowed - however - like everything else that is good, there will always be those that use it to troll.
Perfectly - so users looking for a long break and that have no self control only need to change their name and voila!, no coming back to ECC for thirty days.
Dealing with paperwork issues, as ban requests happen to be, are the easiest type of work the staff have to handle. It takes them far quicker to handle a ban request than it would to handle any in-game issue that would have a ban. Also, how about the people that people that don't troll with the ban requests? Are they just completely out of luck because some people abuse the system? One solution to handle the trolls could be to have those that abuse the feature get blacklisted, as they should be now, or change all ban requests to a proper ban until appealed. One reason someone may need to be banned would be if their account is compromised, say by an "irl friend" who may want to get them banned, or cause harm to some of their property. This situation has happened in the past, which is one of the reasons this system got added in the first place. Some other reasons would fit into why they would "want to be banned" instead of "need to be banned" however they also play a part. If someone wants to be deny themselves access to the server, due to bad self control or for some other reason, that should not be a debate that the Staff Team takes on. Even if only one in ten people decide to go off in chat, that is still one more person that didn't need to cause a disruption to the other users enjoying the server. As to the reason of why it was decided to be a temp ban, instead of a ban until appeal was two-fold if my memory serves me correctly: First, it would allow the entire process to be handled by blue mods. While the blue mods could do the banning, they would not be able to handle the appeal. While not a major issue anymore, it fit better with the process of the staff team at the time ban requests were added. To allow a user that was banned not to have a "stain" on their record. If someone is checking out another users history, and sees a thread called "[Ban Appeal]" they may think they broke a rule, when they requested a ban. By having it set to a temp ban that expires, it would remove their ban request from being mistaken as a stain on their history. If it should be a temp ban or ban until appealed is something that would be more fitted to a different suggestion. There are merits to both methods, and may be something that should be discussed again since things have changed.
Personally I like the temp ban request. But the only thing I would change is the temp ban time, my opinion would be that if you request one the ban will last 7 days. See people will request some times 2 times a week to be banned instead of wasting the staffs time just make it 7 days to make it less work for the staff
I personally would make it 5 or 6 days, As if someone does a 7 day temp ban, there chests in other towns are at risk of being LWC'd You can say yes well its there fault for doing a temp ban, but i think we should be encouraging people to be in others towns rather then the opposite.
Generally when I've created a ban request, it was not because I could not control myself/was addicted. Instead, I was simply angry/annoyed at certain players, and wanted to protect myself from possibly harassing others in game. I don't think that you should generalize all ban requests for one reasoning, as that is simply not the case for everybody.
One thing which has annoyed me is the way in which people request bans in a trolly manner. I have thought about possibly having a format for ban requests, something like: You don't need to look past the first page of search results for 'ban request' and you can see a whole selection of trolly posts to request a ban. Part of me thinks that sometimes people request a ban purely for some ratings/to seem funny etc. This would cut that out completely. It also has the benefit of addressing the questions which staff tend to ask anyway, thus speeding up the process when a ban request may be needed more urgently - such as if an account was compromised. What do you guys think? Edit: Can't decide if its a bit unnecessary though for a ban request.. or whether staff should just deny ban requests which are a bit trolly. Or as Gen raised, is such a post better than having them troll in game? I don't know haha.. feel free to add your opinion!
