Suggestion: Forum Moderators

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by TaylorBros22, Dec 8, 2014.

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Do you think this should be implemented? (read the thread first!)

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  1. TaylorBros22

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    Hi ECC,

    My suggestion is a simple one, the addition of forum moderators.
    I suggested this on the 5th June, but I got only 2 replies and it was when andrew owned the server, I want to see what our new owner thinks!

    What would they do?
    The clue is in the name! I think we should have the forum moderators to help the staff with their duties, so the staff can concentrate more in game. I am not insulting any of the staff, or trying to say that they do a rubbish job, I just think that it would be a help. The forum moderators would have the power to lock threads when/if they see fit. For example if a thread had been necro'd or a flame war ws hapening. They would also be responsible for policing the ban appeals/complaints section to enforce the 'no unhelpful, unwanted comments rule'. They would not be able to deal with the appeals or complaints just help make sure they are dealt with effectivly, if staff are unavalible as they are of the lowest prioity. They would have the power to enforce forum warnings and forum bans.

    How would they be distingushied?
    They could have a specific colour on the forums and possible in game. For example they could have a pink coloured name.

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    Please ensure that you read the thread before posting and I would be grateful for constructive advice and please don't just post " -1, bad idea" as it is not helpful to me or the other users!

    Old Suggestion.
     
  2. Vintage_Gamer

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    Urm... this is a horrible idea. If there are moderators on the forums why not just make them in game moderators also?

    Staff are here to carry out their duties, let them do it.
     
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    We already have a staff team that is capable of moderating forums so there's no need. This should be up to staff to decide not members.
     
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  4. TaylorBros22

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    Hi,

    In answer to your question some people, me included are limited to time they are allowed on minecraft/gaming equipment and thus are unable to fufil the time requirements of the staff team. I think that you do not need to be an in game moderator, just to moderate the forums. I am not saying that staff do not carry out their duties properly, I am suggesting that some members help them out so they can concentrate more on in game stuff.
    Thansk for the comment,
    Taylor
     
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    I am slightly confused by your comment. I know we already have a staff team, but it would be good to help them along in the forums so they can concebtrate on their in game duties. I am unsure what you mean by "this shoukd bevup to the staff to decide, not members."
    Taylor
     
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    One of the main reasons i want to be mod besides helping people is forum moderation. -1

    This post was posted by the fabulous slayer_boy_2000. Feel honoured that this was posted! X D

    p.s This is a signature :p
     
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    I think that we have enough staff members. Good idea though.
     
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    They can carry out their duties faster and better if their attention was not spent on things easily done by 2-3 active forum members.

    I know plenty of people who would do this. Not only is this good for allowing game moderators focus on issues like scamming, focusing on in game things, and giving them a break from some responsibilities.

    I also believe these moderators could help build up a better forum community, which is something we don't really have.

    If you are picky on how you "want" to help people then you wouldn't be a very good staff member.
     
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    -1 / No

    As it already stands, Staff lacks communication, guidance, and synergy. Adding a new team will make it worse/more complicated.

    The argument(s) that forum moderators would help in-game moderators focus is very weak. A lot of forum moderation has to do with complaints, appeals, and contracts - all of which relate to being in-game and keeping up with the server.

    As well, anything that doesn't directly tie to in-game playing still requires regular in-game playing. Staying up to date is extremely important, and there are plenty of things that can only be learned by being in-game and seeing chat, announcements (alerts), Staff chat, etc. In order to be Staff on a server, a person needs to have a presence everywhere to do well, have synergy/team harmony, be informed, etc.

    Current Staff are more than capable of handling the forum. Having a Staff that would really only handle necros (which has a suggestion up, because many threads are being locked when they shouldn't) and flame wars, as is mentioned in the suggestion, isn't a Staff doing much at all. There really are not many true necros, and if there are flame wars that is the community's fault. It is not hard to click the "Report" button, PM or /msg Staff members, etc...

    If that is not working, then Staff simply needs to go over their guidelines again and start moderating all the stuff that isn't being moderated (that should be). Adding a new Staff team will not solve these issues or make them get done faster/better... They will be taught the same exact things, which are/would be not working.
     
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    Hi everyone,

    Thanks for all your replies and your thoughtful comments.

    @AgentHare: I thank-you for agreeing with my suggestion and you seem to be on the same wavelength as me! It would defiantly help the community and it would allow staff to concentrate on in game duties. Thank-you for replying to slayer_boy and vintage_gamer's comments as it shows that it is not just me that wants this implemented! If you would like, I could forum PM you and we could further develop the idea and possibly take this suggestion to the administration team? It is purely up to you though.

    @MoofinK: Thanks for you contribution, but unfortunately I have to disagree with you. My reasons being: I do believe that these people would help with the staff team and they would not just be locking necro's/flames. They would also be able to approve contracts and police ban appeals and complaints. They would be a team of dedicated people who would be able to help new builders on the forums and give advice to those who need it. It would also help to stop the mini-modding of the threads (as an earlier suggestion stated there was too much of it). I also think that these people need to be active in game, otherwise what is the point of being on here? They would constantly be in touch with the administration and would have a sort of team leader, that they could report to. Obviously, I respect and value your views, but on this occasion I am of another mind!

    @Slayer_boy_2000: Like AgentHare said, if you are picky about you reasons to become a moderator, the job is not for you. You need to be good at and be determined to succeed in every part of the job, not just one part. As always, I thank you for your contribution.

    Keep your comments coming, I love to hear what the community has to say!
    Taylor
     
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    @AgentHare @TaylorBros22 I am not being 'picky' about why I want to be moderator or help people out. Like I said that is one of the main reasons. I did not say the main reason or the only reasons. Please try to understand what I am saying.

    Thank you
     
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    +1 I have thought about suggesting this in the past, never got around to it. I don't have time to be in game a lot, but I am on the forums almost 24/7. That's not to say I am inactive in game, but I can't say I play 4+ hours a day. I routinely see mod lock posts, necros , ect, before regular staff do. I think such a position would be quite beneficial. Also, forum mods should have the ability to change thread titles on request. Would they have the power to issue forum bans/warnings?
     
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    Hi,

    I believe I am in the same situation as you! I love the forums but can't play in game for more than about a couple of hours! They would have the power to change thread titles, lock threads and issue forum bans and warnings. Basically, mostly what a mod does now, the forum mods would do. If you are intrested in this, you may PM me and we can develop the idea further and talk to admin maybe?
     
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    Like @MoofinK said, our current staff team is not quite yet able to handle forum work as needed, and it would make it even more complicated/add more work to the workload. Forum moderators are also not needed because it's in the Moderator's job description to ensure forum work is fulfilled/carried out often.

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    I'm against this (I haven't read other's opinions yet, just the suggestion) because of the in-game moderators link to many things to be honest. Why have a new forum team that will need to know everything from the in-game team. For example:

    A user posts a complaint about someone accusing him of hacking, this was the 3rd time in the same day and staff already warned him.
    A forum moderator wouldn't know what happened in-game unless they were online. Having the unnecessary work of an in-game moderator explaining the situation just adds more time, and frankly doesn't ease our jobs, but make them harder for us. We miss one fact of what happened in-game, then a punishment that shouldn't be given would already be given. Forum moderators aren't needed, I don't see the point of having them.
     
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    There's no need for this. It's fairly useless in all reality. How would they be identified? What exactly makes these people 'special'? How do we know if they're doing their job correctly? How do we know if they've done something wrong and what do we do? There's too many "what ifs" that it is fairly illogical.

    And this is something suggested by people who cannot make the staff team, and I've seen these time and time again. If you want to help out, start up a charity, help people. You don't need to be a staff member to help out...
     
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    -1 Useless why can't normal moderators, do all this. It is part of what they applied to do, and they are more than capable of doing it.
     
  19. TaylorBros22

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    Hi all,

    I would like to try and answer/comment on some of your comments here:

    Would you care to expand om this @Pruneda98?

    Hi @MCHelix3000, thanks for your comment, however I feel that the addition of the forum moderators would ensure that the forums are policed better and I feel that this addition would not make it more work ormore complicated, infact I believe it would ease this. I also feel they would enable the current staff team to handle ingame situations, to a higher standard. (Not that they don't do this already, our staff are brilliant!)

    Hi @7amoodw, thanks for giving your opinion, it is good to hear what a moderator has to say. Unfortunatly I have to disagree here, my reasons being: the forum team could be de-breifed very quickly through the staff forums, and they would be on the forums a lot, meaing they would witness a lot of the situations and know what is going on. They would also be expected to play in game for a little while everyday, so they "keep up". I believe if the team was large enough, like the staff team, there could/would be someone on, from the forum team, at all times, so they could deal with whatever comes their way via the forums. I understand you example and I feel that the forum team would be there only to help police the appeals and complaints, and would not have the power to give out in game punishments. Again, thanks for the contribution.

    Hi @knears2000, thanks for the comment. I will attempt to answer your what if's! Firstly they would be identified by a different colour in game, a banner on the forums and a coloured name tag on the forums, meaning they would easily be recognisable. What would make these people 'special' would be the fact that they had powers on the forums to lock threads and issue warnings/bans through the forums, they would also be a port of call if someone needed a hand involving forums. They would be able to lock goodbye threads thus meaning an in game mods time was not wasted by locking the thread. They would not take the power away from mods, only be a helping hand. We wpuld know if the job was being done properly by weekly/monthly disscussions with a 'team leader' type figure and if they did something wrong, they would be put under the same sanctions as mods. I believe your last statement is harsh. I have never attempted applying for staff as I know I cannot fufil the online time, as much as I would like to. I also think that being a forum mod would enable me to help the community within the forums more than I would be able to being a regular player.

    I would like to thank everyone for their comments here, they are much appreciated. Keep them coming in.
    Taylor
     
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    I don't think they should get anymore recognition in-game. That's a "no-no". Forum gold members don't get recognition in-game, so why should these "moderators" be named the same as well. These "people" are fairly arbitrary. They're just people that have staff powers on the forums. That's what we have a staff team for. If you want to be a part of the staff team, then apply, don't make something just so that it benefits you. This doesn't benefit the community, as staff is usually doing what needs to be done on the forums within 2 hours of an incident. Also, the comment was not "harsh" as you describe it. It was an observation, and a correct observation. If you want to help out, you don't need to be a staff member. I've seen countless amounts of charitable organizations made by non-staff members. And they do more help for people than staff members in some instances. This is not needed, and never will be added.