I agree with most of what is being suggested here except the following:

- Awkward Potions (I think you're mistaken about this not being relevant, it's only irrelevant right now since no brewing ingredients exist, but are essential for brewing itself if it comes back)
Add + Sugar to option 1 for speed pots

 

Couldn't agree more with removing string, awkward potions, and flint. They have no use. Planks and Iron on the other hand are used quite frequently in crafting iron swords/axes and shields. A huge no to fireballs. The idea sounds cool at first, but in reality there's hardly ever an opportunity where you can use them effectively. Also disagree with increasing flint and steel durability. You know the saying: "If it's not broken, don't fix it."

Don't like option 1 at all. Potions will be the death of SG. Why should we directly add potions to chests? If someone wants an OP potion they should at least have to spend time brewing it. As well, gunpowder shouldn't be in chests at all. Having a splash strength or speed potion gives teams more of an advantage than they already have.

I'm much more leaning towards option 2 since it's closer to vanilla SG, but some kit changes would also have to happen to help with balancing.

 

I like the flint and iron, as I can make flint & steel, which is really helpful

 

We need to keep the planks and ingots.

 

+1 to the both option.
Might I suggest to add a poll so people can vote for which option

 

keep sticks and ingots, becuase diamonds rarely occur and you can craft diamond swords

 

+1 to fire balls and this suggestion. You're not exactly giving a relevant point why they shouldn't be added - it's up to the user to find the best opportunity to use them.

 

Um... thanks for quoting me?
My main point, which Nicit has decided to ignore/decline multiple times (the reason why I left it out of this thread) is that we already have enough sh*t in chests, and kits for that matter. If you play on any other SG server you will notice 1 thing they all have in common. Organisation. Check any other server that offers SG. Trust me, you will not find anything as unorganised as ECC's SG, and if you do, you're more than welcome to privately tell me. My point is that ECC's SG is the most unorganised survival games you will see. Period. Don't get me wrong, I love our SG, but there needs to be a point where we put our foot down (like we did with the EXP changes). The additions of useless sh*t needs to stop.

 

Oh, ok. I understand now
The Flint and Steel is actually too op, I don't think it should be craftable...

 

Vanilla SG being the original SG as seen on the big boys. such as [edit] and [edit, nicit can see]. The original two SG servers. They have a very simple chest system. And the contents of the chests generally require little crafting or whatever, and it's mostly focused on melee combat. (so no potions or anything.) and they contain sticks and strings to make bows or fishing rods. (though I've seen servers add bows with low durability in chests) No potion stuff, no enchanting stuff, almost no crafting stuff (with the exception of diamond and bows, of course). It's simple and uncluttered.

 

I don't like getting rid of the iron and flint, as I love to use flint and steel. But everything else is good! Both of your options provided sound nice. +1