Minecraft Name: TimmyChoi Suggestion: Original Owners of towns, shouldn't be allowed to remove a person without legitimate reason. Reason: Original Owners of towns are given waaaaay too much power. They can remove and add people at will currently with a 3 day notice. I was part of town which I built together completely with someone who I will not mention, like a vast majority of town was my work too, and I was threatened to be removed from the town. You want to know why? BECAUSE I DIDN'T GIVE THEM A DAMN LOAN WHEN THEY ASKED. This has gone a bit too far. The mayor/presidents can do whatever they want, and can abuse their power negatively. There should be new rules implemented to make sure that they cannot remove people without a legitamate reason, ie: Inactive for 7 days, Not paying rent, Griefing , etc (also known as common sense rules). Rules may include: (Just examples) Owners cannot remove players from their town for their own benefits, and abusing this can lead to a ban. Players who have been inactive for 7 days, done minor grief, not paying rent, etc may be removed with 3 days notice. However removing players because you "feel like it" is not allowed as players have invested time and effort into the town, and by doing so you are pretty much taking their creations and time and work spent into developing the town. (Add More Rules if required) Any Other Information: This is something that I believe will help people who have worked hard and spent time to develop a town with other players, from being removed from their own work. Its almost like griefing in a way. You work so hard for something, and someone instead of destroying it, takes it away from you. Link To This Plugin: N/A
I don't see how they are giving to much power. It's their town, they could do whatever they want to do with it. However, I do agree with you on the fact that they shouldn't threaten/blackmail someone, as it is against the rules.
I believe threatening/blackmail is already against the rules. But like hockey said, it's their town. It's like me telling you things you're not allowed to do with your phone or computer.
There are a lot of issues with this though. What counts as a "Legitimate reason"? Who decides that? How easily could someone get around that? What if I decide that I'm only going to allow purple buildings in my town, so I evict everyone who doesn't have one? What if I decide I'd like to turn my town into something different so I evict everyone? What if I want to use a part of town for a build, so I evict players from that area? What if I think your building looks awful, so I evict you to get rid of it? Are these all legitimate reasons? I think they are. And if someone, say, had a particular bias against someone, they could still easily find a legitimate reason to remove the player. I'm not saying it's right, but to say it wouldn't happen is to be blind.
I had a legit reason to kick you from the town, as you never were at the town, and the houses were very unkempt. Also, you posting my user and tagging me in a comment is a pretty immature thing to do. Notice the fact that the maker of this thread posted no names.
Blackmailing is against the rules. Next time this happens screenshot it and file a complaint. Simple as that.
Only reason they were unkept was because u let ur town get griefed every 7 days. but that is not a topic for this thread
Exactly what Stone says here. The rules are fine as they are. Another simple fix is get mayor and have your own town.
Everyone lend thy ears to this divine man's words! He speaks the truth! Presidents and mayors are all far too corrupt, they must be brought down to the level of peasantry that is the resident rank. All those who reject the new reform are anarchists and must be condemned for their sins! Equality within conformity is the only way! Let us strip these corrupt monsters from their decadence and teach them all true justice! -1. Grow up
Get mayor, get your own town and then build things. A town is nothing more than a protected region owned by a person, if that person decides he wants to kick people out then he's allowed to do so, within reason. within reason means giving them a couple of days of time to move out. This is surprisingly similar to how it works in a lot of parts of the world in real life. -1 suck it up
If they break a town rule, they can kick them out. Inactive for over seven days and they can kick them out. But if it's just "leave", then they can't do that, which is clearly outlined in the rules. So, why exactly did you suggest this, given it's already a rule?
I recently kicked my co-mayor from the town for selling plots when I clearly told him not to & while its still in development. If you don't like his reasoning, either discuss it with your mayor or make your own town. Careful who you trust online..
Town mayors are currently allowed to remove anyone without a reason, so long as the eviction is within the rules (3 or 7 day notice, given time to collect things, etc).
@TimmyChoi There are existing rules in place that are supposed to protect both parties, for example the town owner and the members of the respective town. The 3 days advanced notice to an individual allows you the opportunity to contest your removal based on the reason provided by the town owner. As mentioned by other players above, should a case of blackmail/extortion or other shady request be made, there is the complaint process that can be followed - Just remember to capture (with time stamp) screens of these conversations, mails or PM's. If there were documented town rules in place that provided additional terms and conditions, these would need to be bought to your attention by the town owner and some evidence that you were aware of these terms and conditions when joining the town. The general absence rule is only linked to your last online activity - and does not refer to being active in a particular community / town. The town owner would need to provide proof that town rules required a player to spend x amount of time in the town (normally associated with town projects etc, or as a co-mayor to sell plots, escort visitors on town tours etc.) There is sometimes a tendency for players to make rash decisions and clean out towns when bought over, or kick players from a town for perhaps a simple difference of opinion, much the same as players who claim to be victims have access to this forum to voice their concerns, we all have that right - but are the claims legitimate based on the truth, we all know there are always two sides to a story, as well as the truth. I suggest yourself and the town owner engage each other in a offline discussion and try to reach a mutually beneficial agreement. And in closing I see that you are a member in a town I just bought as well, care to provide a response to the flagged forum post.
I see your reasoning here Timmy, and I somewhat sympathize with it. This rule can be VERY easily abused by town owners. But oddly enough, it's not. I as well wish that this rule could be clarified and/or explained better, but that doesn't seem necessary given the rare amount of times it is abused. Most of the people who do end up abusing this rule get a really bad reputation among the community. I won't name any names, but I'm sure you can think of people who have a less-than-sparkling reputation in the area of town management. Social pressures keep this rule from being abused very often, as do financial pressures. If you abuse this rule, people will dislike you, people won't buy plots from you, and people will be hesitant to do all other kinds of business with you (donations, loans etc). It is within your interests as a town owner to have the best reputation you can possibly have. So Tl:dr, I wish we could clarify this rule, but it doesn't seem necessary.
