I attended a minewars event today (I've now attended 5 of these types of events) and something has occurred to me. Names and location is irrelevant, I simply want to ask for a new server rule. A friend of mine bid on a locker that had a starting bid of $500. The worth of the locker: $310. It is my understanding that starting bids in auctions are usually lower than the items worth IRL. I would say that is almost always the case in auctions on this server as well, otherwise no one bids. The chatter of other winning bidders at the event today made it seem that everyone lost money. This is fine IMO if starting bids for the locker begin below the rooms worth, and bidder excitement inflates the sell price beyond locker worth. I do not know if the other locker's starting bids were above room worth, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. In order to sustain the participation in these types of events and to protect players from being scammed, I think there should be a server rule that all locker's starting bids need to begin below room worth by at least a certain ratio. Or perhaps a rule that says a certain number of the lockers need to start well below their worth. Also, maybe the starting bid should be posted on the locker for easy reference. The auction should be a risk for people on both sides, not a guaranteed massive payday for the event holders where locker winners come out feeling scammed. Anyone who agrees with me on some level, please post to show support.
Re: Minewars Starting Bid Problems Well, I do like MineWars... but if others are willing to risk their own money to stuff they cannot see, its their choice to bid in the first place. Its like the mystery auctions that are now banned, but this are still held into place. Once again I will repeat, its your own choice to bid. I haven't been to a MineWars since Jetscat has left, but usually he starts the bid way less than the locker is worth and it just sky rockets. Unfortunately, its like normal auction they get to start at their own price & get to auction it their own way... I do agree that their should be risk for both sides, and there is depending on the bids that are placed. Will leave unlocked unless some mass chaos starts.
No. You bid on what you bid on, there will never be server rules on this, and almost 100% there wont be, it's possible, but I really doubt it.
I was the one that hosted the minewars, and yes the locker was $500 start bid, and the locker was only worth $310. But i assure you that this was a mistake, all the other lockers were legit, and the person that we can say "scammed", has been refunded his money and is allowed to keep the items from the locker. And yes, im in full support of this rule. Sorry for the trouble, FuzzyRakdar
Sorry, but it just wont happen. Its everyone's choice to bid on what they bid on... if you don't like it then just don't bid.
Mods going around in circles? Yes you had your input. In light of the information at hand I think this needs to be looked at - if mystery auctions are banned then there is no reason why this cant have guidelines - even if its not enforced (similar to wild complaints - mods CAN and DO intervene in the wild - but are under no obligation to do so).
Doesn't matter, it's a Play hosted event, auction is a server hosted so called event. People can bid 1.5 million on a locker and it can only be worth 5, it's all the person who bidded on it, Minewars rules are made by the owners of minewars, mystery auction were made by so called 'The server'.
This would defeat the purpose of having it like storage wars.... because you have to take risks on lockers... This is why this game was made in the first place, to take risks on lockers, and to be like storage wars.
I'm not at all saying that risk should be eliminated. I imagine that if someone were to host a minewars type event multiple times with all lockers being worth 5 dollars with starting bids being in the thousands, that person would be up for a possible ban, or would at least be complained about enough that he would have to stop. This is an extreme example to help communicate my point. I assume mystery auctions have been banned partly due to their possible scamming nature. And a minewars-type event certainly has room for such exploits of the same nature. I'm not saying that anyone who holds a minewars type event is trying to scam, but the more minewars is emulated, the more we may see scamming happen. Therefore I think the server rules should at least mention some guidelines for minewars-type events. As Anok stated, this should at least be looked at. I'm looking for friendly objective discourse here on whether or not creating rules or guidelines makes sense and what they may look like, not any know-it-all "No" answers. With that said, I respect the man who seems to have invented this type of event . Do keep in mind that not everyone will handle the event as well as you may have Jetscat. Thank you for your responses guys.
I don't think there should be any rules what so ever on how you spend your own money. If I wanted to bid a thousand dollars on an unknown object that might be dirt that’s my problem. You should make shure you trust the people handling these events, if you don’t do not participate.
While there is always the possibility for our rules to change based on the opinions of the community, you must remember that under our current rules all trades and auctions are done at the risk of the user. With that said, if you feel that any minewars-like event is a scam, you should simply no longer participate in that particular event. Eventually, if enough people stop participating, the users who run that event will stop. I noticed that the user holding this event has posted stating you received a refund, so I would hope that this is only a one time occurrence. I will be leaving this open so that this discussion may continue.
This has turned into more of a suggestion than a complaint. If you would like to suggest a change/addition, please make a suggestion thread in the suggestion forum. Discussion can continue there if you want to make a new thread. For now I will lock this thread, as it seems the main issue behind this suggestion was resolved. If not, you can make another complaint thread that is more directed at the complaint and less for a rule change. [:
