[Important Suggestion] LWC Removals

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  1. a18greek18

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    Suggestion:
    Remove the following rule about blocking access to LWCs:
    Clause 4 - LWC Removal Requests



      • LWCs in towns may only be removed with a request in the Staff Requests forum by the mayor or co-mayor of the town under the following circumstances:
        • A user is inactive (by staff standards, this means at least 7 days offline.)
        • A user has been issued a 3 day eviction notice that complies with the requirements above in Clause 3. Proof of the eviction notice must be provided.
        • A user has been banned for Moderate+ grief in the town.
        • A user has been requested to remove their locks via an eviction notice and has outrightly declined to do so (timestamped proof of declination to remove locks must be provided with the request.)
      • Any other request that does not follow these guidelines is considered attempted theft, and in serious cases, you may be punished for attempting to illegally remove locks. Locks in the wild and locks belonging to the applicant owner of the town may not be removed.
      • Locks in the wild and locks belonging to the applicant owner of the town may not be removed.
      • You may not block access to any locked belongings of the evicted user at any time. Staff will deny all requests in which the LWCs have been blocked in an attempt to protect items.
        • If your request has been locked for this reason, you must re-issue the 3 day eviction notice and may only file a new LWC removal request once the 3 day eviction period has expired.
        • If the player was not issued an eviction notice as they had been offline for 7+ days, then you must still wait 3 days before re-filing the request.

    Reason:
    I'd like to start off by apologizing to all the users I stole from, and I'd be more than happy if we could remain friends! What I did was solely to prove a point. With that off my back, I'll start discussing reasons why my suggestion should be considered.
    As you all know, LWC Removals are currently not allowed to be blocked under any circumstance and if you do block them, the LWC request will be denied. I'm going to be 100% honest in saying that this rule is utterly stupid. Plain and simple. Think back to before the LWC removal was made and when the player who has the lock was gathering items and putting them in his/her chests. That player most likely worked hard and spent time gathering said items. Then for whatever reason he/she decided to stop playing ECC and go inactive, leaving their items up for grabs. Their items no longer have any value to them because they are inactive. So when the town owner took time to sell the user a plot and once again takes time to file an LWC Removal, why shouldn't the lock be treated as if its their own? Why is it that other players are allowed to loot the items and make money from these chests with minimal effort?

    I understand that LWCs should be filed for the sole purpose of getting rid of the lock, but why are other players allowed to come in and take the items that the town owner deserves? I could argue endlessly about this, but I'll leave it at that. I trust administration in making the correct decision here.

    Any Other Information:
    After experimenting with this for just 2 days (and putting my reputation on the line) I realised just how much hate/disrespect/flaming (whatever you want to call it) you will receive from stealing from LWC Removals. All players want to be able to get the items in their LWC Removals. Don't even lie about it. We all do because its one of the perks of running a town.
    Here are just 2 of many threads that were made because of LWC Stealing:

    http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/t...th-tp-to-loc-before-i-could-get-there.115188/
    http://www.ecocitycraft.com/forum/threads/lwc-removal-is-seriously-broken.115186/page-2#post-618189


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    #1 a18greek18, Jan 1, 2015
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2015
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    Buy the town flag feature for 10k then no one can get your stuff
     
  3. a18greek18

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    The thing is.. not many people do that and are willing to spend money on a town flag. As well, players with perms to your town can still steal the items.
     
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    ^^^ In addition to what @a18greek18 stated, not all Owners of towns are "technical owners" per the server rules and are unable to purchase a flag.
     
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    A18 - You do realize that you could have easily locked the chest and added the person who filed the lwc and sent them a mail... or you could have easily returned the items if it was just a point you were trying to make... just saying.