[EVERYONE PLEASE READ] Let Us Buy Diamond Tools!!!!

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by SafieKyo, Jun 16, 2011.

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Allow diamond tools to be bought from the server again?

  1. Leave it as is.

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  2. Bring them back!

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  1. SafieKyo

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    BRING THEM BACK ANDREW!

    Bring Diamond tools back.

    WE*(most active members of the server) understand that in order to encourage an economy, money and resources must be in balance. But think of the impact it has upon users when you take vital resources away.

    My arguments--(many of my topics are gathered from users)
    Resources, resources, resources.
    It takes ALOT of resources to find diamonds, let alone to mine them.
    It usually takes stone pickaxes, to find and mine the iron and coal, to smelt the iron and make the torches and iron pickaxe to eventually mine the diamonds.*(though you can easily buy it) Don't forget the sheer amount of food, torches, armor and TIME it takes to get in a cave and attempt to explore it without dying.
    At the first sign of a monster I scream like a little bitch, ask anyone on vents. It almost makes it not worth it to go exploring. Basically by the time you find diamonds, you're at a deficit of time money and resources. If you had a diamond pick throughout this whole ordeal, it's pretty much dead, and you're back at 0. Basically what you use to find diamonds, pays for another diamond tool, and that's not even worth it.

    The price of diamonds are skyrocketing, and everyone is growing sick of it.
    The amount of people desperate for 1 diamond at an auction drives me nuts.

    REBUTTALS


    Minecraft intends that finding diamonds is the most rewarding experience, but expanding that theory to multiplayer, mining isn't everything. Creating successful towns, farming, exploring and making friends are some of the most rewarding experiences you can have on a good server.
    Not everyone is a miner.


    SOLUTIONS


    Have a limited supply of Diamond tools avaliable for sale each month*. Still keep the ban on selling diamond items to the server; this was a good idea and should stay in place stopping the exploit of the sell hack. With this implemented, the price will still go up, but will still encourage users to go out and harvest the resources they need for their stores, homes and towns STILL ENCOURAGING ECONOMY.


    The only problem I see with this is the fact that the rich will hoard the tools, but even so, they'll sell them to others making profit.
    *(Shovels, Axes and Pickaxes, noone really uses hoes)

    Solution 2.

    Give everyone 1 diamond shovel and pickaxe, thus giving them the tools to go out and find their own resources to craft. (Socialist I know, and similar to solution 1)


    Solution 3.
    This requires everyone to be in agreement.

    Anyone with more than 25 diamonds (or combo of diamonds and diamonds and tools) in his or her possession, but this is easily loop-holed since users can hide and lie.




    IN CONCLUSION
    BRING DIAMOND TOOLS BACK....partially.
    Users are becoming more irate as inflation is taking it's hold.

    Diamonds are now 80 (avg.)
    And they're steadily going up as users have to charge more and more.


    PLEASE POST SUGGESTIONS AND COMMENTS!
     
  2. Michaelwm

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    I think we should leave it as is o_O

    Its perfectly fine and was done to raise user economy. Non-sellable diamond tools allow users to create prices with auctions and trade, etc..
     
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    I don't.
     
  4. Starbolt79

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    Although I hate not having tools buy-able, I understand the reasons of why they aren't and think it should be left as is [:
     
  5. Michaelwm

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    Also, there is an Unlimited supply of diamonds on the map as rewards from the monster hunt give diamonds.
     
  6. SafieKyo

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    When is the last time a monster hunt has gone on. (3 today) But monster hunts are also exploitable, mob spawner, 5 people in cahoots for the reward.
     
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    My exact point :]
     
  8. SafieKyo

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    -Users aren't selling them in stores, they're hoarding them.
    -User demand for higher prices??? Seriously...
    - Selling diamonds for 100 (avg), you're using at least 3x that much worth in resources to get them.
     
  9. Maskedsalesman

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    I hate to mine for diamonds, actually I kinda hate mining in general. I went down in the mines my first day and found around 35-40 diamonds in a few hours and after falling into lava MANY times. I decided I had enough. I like being on the surface. I normally build most of my building out of wood and planks so i don't really have a reason to go down except for coal for torches/ smelting smooth stone.

    I do like the idea that diamonds should NOT be in the store. It is very hard and stressful to run around down there , dodging lava and monsters to find them. they should not sell below 80, or in my opinion 100 each.

    I do NOT like the hunts. they are very exploitable and very annoying. I think they should be removed or the prizes changed to something less extreme.

    I am angry that the prices of farmable materials went down. If you want people to be on the surface, around other players for player interaction, I would set the prices back. My reed farm, tree farm and flower farm are completely pointless now. So I guess I'm headed back to the strip mine.

    I think players should have a choice of how they make their money. Either by trading, farming, doing work, or mining. Thus an overall equal economy.
     
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    Thank you for your insight.
    :3
     
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    Lol thank you, everyone says I always sound angry when I'm really not that mad. I'm just a college student and this is how we write. I was worried I was going to be bitched at for voicing my opinions.
     
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    Diamond prices are still the same o-o
     
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    I'm for and against this.. It is such a freaking PAIN to get diamonds. And people DO hoard them. Then they auction JUST ONE diamond, people freak out, then get pissed off when they don't win the diamond. And when it comes to trading those diamonds that you won from an auction, it is only a matter of time before people go in and steal THOSE, just by walking between people... Even if you move away from spawn, people will watch you talk. Local, global, trade, auction chat... They'll follow just to be pains. It'll happen. :| (People need to use /msg and /tell more, ugh...)

    Monster hunts rarely happen unless Andrew hosts them. People will then continue to bitch because they died a lot, lost this or that (such as diamond swords; more diamonds lost. How much do you really make?). And the more people mine diamonds and fall in lava, the less diamonds there are.. I know the map is huge, but people die in lava a lot, lol.... And it isn't like you can just /sell hand the diamonds to save them. It wastes so much time to walk all the way back to a chest, too, especially when you don't have /home...

    -rageragerage-

    Otherwise, I do understand why the diamond tools were taken out. >_> It's just painful.. With and without them. -flails-
     
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    I am for getting rid of the diamond tools. I was tired of people just farming and not have to worry about anything else. Now people either have to pay ridiculous prices for diamonds or go mining. TBH it's not all that hard to get diamonds. In like a 2 hour span, me and WhiteRaptor got about 33 diamonds. Yes we got a little lucky, but that is all it takes. I think this will be good.

    P.S. Also it brings more people to my casino >:)
     
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    I think it should stay how it is but maybe Andy could make more contests and games rewarding diamonds.
     
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    I can spend 5 hours mining and only find 2 diamonds. Actually, that is usually how it is... 'cept I tend to find 6 stacks of redstone and 3 stacks of iron, and no diamonds. :/
     
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    lol strip mine at 10 or 13 y
     
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    try mining at lvl 12 and do a for 4 mine. remember to branvh every 3 blocks.
     
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    I have a feeling shes knows this....

    I dont need diamond tools from the server, i get everything myself
    I supplied Tox and Syn with diamond tools in exchange for helping me and we only found 4 diamonds, but we wernt really looking for diamonds, (looking for coal)
    So i dont think its that hard, yes a lost 2 diamonds 6-4, but i got about 6 stacks of log, 2 stacks of coal, 4 stacks of cobble and a stack of redstone, aand i let them keep there tools for helping.
    And i dont have much money either, if i run out, well i run out, i will grab my iron or cobble axe and go back down the mine, its a painful process, but hence the name MINEcraft
     
  20. Starbolt79

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    And here I've been thinking this was Terraira....

    <_<
    >_>
     
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