[Ban Appeal]

Minecraft Username:
OnSceneReporter

Reason:
Use of mini-map mod.

Counter-Reason:
I was unaware that use of a map mod is considered hacking. Hacking as it pertains to maps does not seem to be clearly defined in the rules. Most mmo's that I have played do not seem to consider hud maps to be hacking, so this did not reflect to me as an issue.

I had been using the map mod as a means to aid with coordinate display, way point coordinate storage for long distance travel, and over head views of on-going construction.

Hacking described on the rules seems as though it only pertains to the classic breaking into things. Though I think I'm computer proficient, I'm no where near the knowledge level of understanding hacking. In casual conversation with several users, I heard about the use of map mods. Since I heard so many people using them, I didn't think there would be a problem. I will come forward and state that I had been hoping to begin a cartography effort with a map mod that would allow over head screenshots, of areas traveled, to be saved. I hoped I could fly across regions of Main World and gradually assemble a wide map of what Main World looks like, label where regions are, and post that for everyone to enjoy.

Again, I was not aware that map mods were a problem. I have happily removed the map mod items from my minecraft folders. I believe/hope this should take care of it.

Though personally I do not understand why a map mod presents a problem, I'm ok with taking it off at your word. I understand the rule that the concept of hacking does not want to be discussed. So I don't care to discuss the rational of it.

However, I demand that the concept of map mods qualifying under server rules as a "hack" be clearly noted in the rules. Upon conducting a search, I can now see that the issue of map-mod has come up many times. Regardless of your (general server support personnel) clarity on the issue, I think this more than proves that the concept of map-mods is thought of by several users as green or at least gray. The map-mods issue should be clearly stated on the rules in Section 4, Clause 1. The reasoning doesn't need to be explained, just the concept added, as traditionally I do not believe map-mods are thought of as hacking. Most mmo games have a hud-map, or allow users to have a mod for a hud-map. This is perhaps the single biggest reason why it did not reflect to me that a map-mod constituted a hack when I read over the rules before further engaging on the server. I do understand that anything you deem to be a hack, constitutes a hack in the rules. I believe it would be irresponsible not to clearly state a common issue like this on the rules, merely to avoid further confusion current and future server members.

I would throw out the idea that a place be made to list out, and as time goes on to add to that list, known modifications that are considered "hacks". This would further help avoid this type of confusion from happening to me, or other users.

Evidence:
I can provide you no evidence other than my word that I have removed the map mods from my mods folder and minecraft folders. I believe that should resolve this issue.

 

peregrines3469

I have no problem posting a screenshot of the removal as per your request.



I continue to maintain that this issue needs to be added to the rules. Even in your own post above, the language regarding to the issue is not concise and is not maintained. Personally at this time, I do not understand what that specific mod does that makes it worthy of being called a hack; but of course, I only installed it yesterday, and I am not really familiar with it either. But I'm not going to contest that. I'm merely stating, the ambiguity of the whole matter encourages confusion.

I can't really understand why such a widespread issue has not been simply declared in the rules. I must therefore assume that it is either not added due to lax efforts, or because there are hud mini maps that are not considered "hacks". If this is the case, could you recommend? Speaking out loud, there is a third, crazy possibility, that it is intentionally left ambiguous for a less than moral purpose akin to entrapment. I highly doubt that is the case, but ambiguity unnecessarily precipitates confusion.

Again, I believe this contributes to ambiguity that members can become confused with. Speaking frankly, I'm really not concerned about users who abuse the ambiguity to their own ends. That is grossly wrong. I'm talking about preventing real misunderstandings stemming from the ambiguous nature of the language, and wasting several people's time in the process. I believe this situation constitutes a model for this.

I must also ask then about my other addons. What about macro/keybind mod that allows simpler execution of commands such a tpa, tpahere, repair, seen, trade chat commands? What about optifine - a mod that optimizes Minecraft? I've installed these from word of mouth advice from other players on EcoCityCraft.