Suggestion for hackers.

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  1. Diamonds1358

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    I think (MY OPINION) that the first time someone is accused of hacks, with evidence shown it should be a 7 day ban, gives them a LOT of time to think. The 2nd time is a 1 month ban, lot more time, and if they still choose to be a pathetic hacker then perma ban after.
     
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    Some players just comes on to test their luck whether they can hack or not. If they get banned they won't come back.
    Those who are caught and wants to come back, would do a ban appeal and we discuss from there. We would rather a 1 time offence and not ban again after agreeing then 7 days ban > hack > ban > hack. It's just dragging on. A one-time settle-it-all would be more merciful.
     
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    Some who do get banned though and want to get unbanned will probably just come back and hack again though, and try to fill a ban appeal right after they get banned, which doesn't allow the whole thought process for the players.
     
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    Why not just make it there ban appeal won't be read for 7days so they still have to go through the thought process
     
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    Dats good also :3
     
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    Let's say we have a known hacker who's submitted 9 appeals within 5 months... I found a video, from a different server, 2 months after their original ban from AEM... Guess what... Still using hacks... Not only that they lied to us in their appeal and all... It's a lot easier on staff to ban the person right off the bat instead of having to wait 7 days to confirm what we've seen and to see if they'll change. Some hackers will INSTANTLY log off if they see/know staff is on.

    Let's use that guy I mentioned as an example. He gets temp banned, after 7 days he comes back on and keeps checking tab every minute or has a mod that shows all who's online on the side, he then sees @zrinnn log on, he'll instantly log out to avoid him. No one gets evidence of him hacking either in the meantime. So he can continually come back on AEM, avoid staff and any evidence of him hacking, with an issue. This will then slowly kill off the player's fun because they're fighting a hacker that can't/hasn't been "dealt with" in their eyes, then they possibly start using hacks themselves.
     
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    I mean I am saying like 1 week is 1st warning 1 month is 2nd and after that banned forever and no appeal. Also I have pretty good trust in players like @Ricky Zheng 012 and @mario84567 to continue to report players so that will not ever happen.
     
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    @Diamonds1358 This same guy had a 2nd, 3rd, 4th and I think a 5th chance... He claimed to clear his hacks and gave us a phony screenshot each time. It's less of a hassle on staff to get them to submit a ban appeal and prove their innocence, if they really want to come back, their than having to suffer though a tedious process. And majority of the time than not, they just get on a server to hack and not give 2 rat's asses about becoming unbanned because they believe they took away players because 'we let hackers play'. And most of the time when they do submit a ban appeal it does have up to about a week wait for approval or more due to either them not responding to staff or us waiting for them to get the screenshots we need.
     
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    But they can't be online 24/7
    Do try to understand what @Pip Xanadu is trying to point out.
    It's better to get it off the start and avoid future hassles that may cause damage to the server or players fun.
    I don't see a reason why we need to drag someone's case. If they want to be accepted back they do a ban appeal. It's not like I do a ban appeal and get accepted straight away. Some people who do want to get back to AEM but have to wait 7days to a month would probably decide it isn't worth it.
     
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    Also, if they were hacking, they KNOW it's against the rules, and they know they'll get banned if caught. So this ban idea, even though thoughtful, could also be just saying "Hi! COME HACK US!!!!" From what I read, it's easier on the staff to make it a one-time deal. Being staff is stressful too, so dealing with the same 5869 bans every week could just make them all quit. Even though that sounds a little extreme, I've seen this exact same thing happen on my old favorite server. All the staff quit because of stress and the server went crazy. I deleted it... I was so upset. I had like over 1mil on towny survival. So, do you want that to happen here?
     
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