Ban Appeal from immature_prune

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  1. immature_prune

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    Member Name immature_prune

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    Which server were you banned on? Survival

    Why were you banned from this server? Because a girl cried when I took offence to her accusation of myself being a rapist.

    Why do you think you deserve another chance on the server? Because I broke no rules.
    After my second ban appeal was made unviewable to me I took it upon myself to speak to a staff member on teamspeak who gave me the reply to my appeal.

    This review simply stated that because a girl cried and I did not, I got banned. The person reviewing my appeal stated directly that their beliefs conflict with my own and that is why my appeal was turned down.
    that is the most sexist thing I have heard from anyone on this server.
    I was raised in a society where it is not only abnormal for a man my age to cry, but it is implicitly expected that a man my age will not cry over something as arbitrary as being offended.
    The fact that she cried means nothing. I got offended too, I just expressed it in a more controlled manner.
    Geeves told me that the reason blueberries side was the one being most supported was becase she mae the effort to report me to a player mod, and I did not.
    That also, is ridiculous! The only reason I did not report her is because SHE DID NOTHING WRONG! If she had broken a rule in the process of ACCUSING ME OF RAPE then I would have, but there are no rules that imply specifically that you cant hurt someones feelings.

    She hurt my feelings, I told her how I felt about it. She got upset and defensive upon my ttrying to express myself, so I took the same stance as her, an offensive one.

    I made her uncomfortable, but your website states specifically that no player will be kicked from the server without a "serious" breach of rules. Mine was not even a minor one, my side was not a breach of the rules.


    I literally got accused of rape in a vague sense, and told her that I'm not a fucking rapist and that it is extremely offensive to instantly assume I am one.

    The main reason I was given by Emmacalifornia and Geeves that I am banned is because if a staff member sees a player make another player uncomfortable then they have to do something.
    Then why is Blueberry not banned? She accused me of turning into a were-rapist, thats a whole lot more offensive than saying 'Chill out, not everyone that sees you is a fucking demonic hellish monster incapable of sympathising with the fact that you dont want to get raped'.

    I called her arrogant, she called me a rapist. Why the hell is nobody actually looking at what happened with an unbiased view?! Why the hell is it ok to tell me that my very prescence is a "THREAT" (her words) to any female on the street!?





    "Any staff, owners, hosts, advertisers, officers, directors, employees, partners, and all other parties related to this servers staff reserve the right, with the appropriate permissions, to forcibly make you leave the server, permanently or temporarily, with no chance of refund – however this will never be unwarranted, this will only happen in the case of extreme rule-breaking. If you obey the rules, you will never be banned, plain and simple."

    liveleak.com/view?i=b48_1305790944
    Please, take it upon yourself to watch this video on the importance of your own opinion and the concept of being offended.
    For the love of god, watch the video.
     
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    I'll leave the appeal open for while so you can view it, but your stories are not making sense. To clarify, I was the one who reviewed your most recent appeal, and my response was as follows:

    "You were permanently banned from survival for starting major arguments. You were given a VERY clear warning to stop and you refused to, which is why you were banned as opposed to simply muted. The harassment was getting WAY out of control and it was bad enough that we had to have a staff member from a server other than survival come in to try to calm things down.
    I'm sorry, but this type of behavior is something that we can not tolerate on the server, and this appeal will have to be denied."


    In this appeal, you have said "the person reviewing my appeal stated directly that their beliefs conflict with my own and that is why my appeal was turned down. that is the most sexist thing I have heard from anyone on this server."

    No where in this comment did I say that your beliefs conflict with mine and as a result you are banned, and I do not fully understand how you came to that conclusion, as I made no mention whatsoever about any beliefs. All that I said was that you were asked by staff to stop doing something multiple times, and that you were kicked with a perfectly clear warning and indication that you would be banned if you decided to continue, which is why you were banned.

    The final warning you received was a kick from the game with the message "STOP FINAL WARNING OR I'LL GIVE BAN."

    While I realize that it may be interestingly worded, the message here should still be absolutely clear and I can think of no reasons as to why someone would not understand what it meant, and this is certainly part of why you were banned.

    Rule #7 on the survival server, which asks you to "Be fair and respectful to all," was clearly being broken here as you were being disrespectful to players as well as to staff by not listening to their warnings.

    Rule #14 states "Be sure to listen to what all staff say; obey all staff" and clearly this was not the case if you were warned multiple times to stop and yet continued to cause issues between players.

    Also too, this is a server where we do try to maintain an environment that is suitable for younger players in addition to older players, which is why we request that players keep swearing to a minimum as stated by rule #2, and your quotes above are examples of the type of language that we do wish to deter.

    Furthermore, as you stated in the terms of service, staff do have the ability to remove players from the game when it is warranted, and the in game rules also state something of this nature to ensure that all players are aware of this.

    By what was stated here, you broke several of our server's rules and given your behavior, we simply feel that you should not be allowed on the server if we wish to maintain our child-friendly environment. If you think that there is an issue with the server or you feel that staff need to address player behavior, we do have a section of the forums dedicated to player reports, which is what we request players to use as opposed to arguing in game, particularly when staff have requested it to stop. Additionally, all players have access to /ignore (player), which will let you block out all chat from a given player, which is what we would prefer people to use as opposed to dragging on an argument.

    Overall, you broke multiple rules on the server and received ample and clear warnings that you would be banned if your behavior continued, which is why you are currently banned from the server. Your actions towards other players can very easily be considered harassment as they were very targeted and directed with no clear aim other than to cause distress to the given individual, and as I am sure you can understand, this too is behavior that we simply can not tolerate on the server for many reasons.

    I hope this helps to clarify the circumstances of your ban.
     
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    Mate...

    I wasnt referencing your reply. I was referencing the appeal mate by someone else who implicitly stated that 'rape is a hot topic button for me'. Thats where contradicting beliefs come in.

    You claim I continued after being warned clearly?
    I was warned once, without seeing it amonst the currently very active chat, if you pay attention to the multiple appeals I made, and the conversationg you will see that after the SECOND time I stopped.
    Recap - first time was not seen, wasnt private messaged or anything, just another message in chat. Second was seen, and followed implicitly.

    I got kicked receiving that message AFTER I stopped talking about the topic.

    I then logged off, because things were getting heated.

    So, to acknowledge your first statement as to which rule was broken: I was told by a staff to change topic and I did.

    In fact, evidently it needs to be made clear that I got banned AFTER LOGGING OFF!
    Blueberry was still talking about it after I left the server.
    I STOPPED THE CONVERSATION AND LEFT THE GAME, BLUEBERRY CONTINUED TO TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC THAT WAS BANNED BY A STAFF MEMBER.
    I FOLLOWED THAT RULE.

    As for the part on respect... Well if you pay attention I only made one point, that I and most men she meets are not rapists. I dont understand how you could misperceive that as an attack, it was very clearly a defence against the fact that ACCUSING SOMEONE OF RAPE IS OFFENSIVE.
    She disrespected me by saying her first assumption upon seeing me at night is that I am a rapist.

    That is disrespect, that is extremely harsh in fact.

    What did I say that is disrespectful?
    "You arent so hot that you would drive a man to insanity and the incapability of altruism"? Is that it? Becuase that is not disrespectful, that is fact. Nobody is that attractive that they can put a man in prison for life.


    I'm not a rapist. I'm not a threat to anyone (night or day). I was spoken to as though my sheer testosterone levels make me a monster.
    Either unban me, ban her, or give me a rule that was not mutually broken by both parties.


    As a quote from you "If you think that there is an issue with the server or you feel that staff need to address player behavior, we do have a section of the forums dedicated to player reports, which is what we request players to use as opposed to arguing in game, particularly when staff have requested it to stop. Additionally, all players have access to /ignore (player), which will let you block out all chat from a given player, which is what we would prefer people to use as opposed to dragging on an argument."

    She started the conversation by accusing any male in the dark of being a potential rapist. I simply said get over yourself.
    If this is about being child friendly, should the issue not be the person who took things to the serious level of accusations of potential rape?


    One last time, for clarification:
    I logged off within minutes of being told to change the topic. I left.
    Blueberry carried on talking about it complaining that I am a threat to her very wellbeing.
     
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    This appeal will be left open for 24 hours before being rejected so you are able to see its contents.
     
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    Regardless, i'm not seeing why you would not have simply ignored what was going on instead of feeding this argument. Your past appeals were denied, and as stated already, this appeal is going to be denied as well. I simply added this to address your concerns and show that multiple rules were indeed broken, which according to the our terms of service, represents ample justification for removing you from the server.

    Also, I am finding it very difficult to believe that you would simply conform to our rules with no further issues if allowed back, particularly after seeing how persistent you appear to be with the ban appeals that are being rejected.

    Seeing as though you have posted and presumable read the reasons as to why you were banned, I will file this appeal where it belongs.
     
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