Just made this thread because there have been lots of instances where new players have joined and became confused why they are not allowed to place water buckets. Now , before the reset players could place water buckets as default rank, but not lava or flint and steel. I agree , lava and flint and steels can be used to grief so the 24 hour requirement to use them is more than required, however as for water I feel this does very little damage compared to lava and fire. So , sure default ranks could can grief people by placing water everywhere, but grief happens all the time, and if a player is going to grief at one stage or another then it makes little difference in allowing default ranks to place water. The reason I am making this forum is to try and get default ranks permission to use water buckets. I know there is an animal pit at spawn , however players cannot create any sort of farm without help/assistance from other members of the community until they have their 24 hours of play time. Personally I don't mind helping people out , but I feel people shouldn't need to ask others to perform the most simple of tasks. Farms people cannot create on a medium to large scale with default (without assistance): Wheat/Potato/Carrot Sugarcane Personal fish farm/fish pool Personal animal farm(Sheep,cow,pig,mooshroom etc) Simple mob/XP grinders(Spider,skeleton,zombie etc) I understand players can manipulate water from the water pools etc , but these are very small and don't exactly provide a well designed or very efficient farm. If any staff would reply and tell me why water is not placeable by default ranks (apart from grief) that would be great. Would also like to hear what other people have to say about the matter of allowing default ranks to place water. ~Shadow~
I think the main reason is that players can grief with water but also you can access places that you're not supposed to without placing ladders to climb up. This is kinda a solution but could players use a dispenser?
I personally don't see a huge issue with this and i agree it may be slightly annoying to new players but this was done in the best interest for the survival community and staff as it's a pain in the butt to clean up water grief. Water flow actions are all recorded in our logging plugins, however that is actually what takes up a fair bit of our database for prism. Reducing the amount of new players from placing water/lava buckets (specifically water) allows for a more efficient and speedy rollbacks.
